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C I N E M A A U D I O S O C I E T Y. O R G 45 shift away from boom as the lead source toward lav-dominant workflows is partly to blame. Booms provide spatial context, dynamic shaping, and emotional realism. When productions overly rely on lavalieres for convenience or framing, the human dimension of performance is often sacrificed. The result is dialogue that is intelligible in isolation but disconnected in context. Mountain also cautioned against a growing danger in modern post- production: overcleaning. Dialogue restoration tools are powerful, but when pushed too far, they strip consonants, remove intelligibility cues, and flatten nuance. He points to the decline of the traditional studio training system, which once trained dialogue editors under experienced mentors, has contributed to the problem. Without proper guidance, "They're overcleaning the dialogue," he said, "and suddenly, we have an intelligibility problem." Re-recording mixer Marc Fishman noted that TV today is nothing like TV from the '70s and '80s. Modern television is created with cinematic ambitions and delivered through living room speakers that would have been unrecognizable 20 years ago. It's an issue of scale and translation. "We've gone way up in complexity, way up in track counts." Shows are now mixed in theatrical environments yet primarily consumed through televisions at home. While large rooms remain necessary for collaboration Jon Greasley reframed the discussion around loudness standards. Specifications like ATSC A/85 and the CALM Act were never intended to flatten storytelling, but rather to stabilize the listener experience, especially across programs and commercials. These standards emerged in response to complaints about wildly inconsistent volume levels and were designed to give audiences a more predictable, usable listening environment without sacrificing creative intent. At the center of that effort is dialogue- anchored loudness. Rather than measuring overall program energy, this approach uses speech as the reference point, recognizing that viewers set their volume based on what they can understand. Without anchoring, effects-driven or highly dynamic shows are routinely turned down, dragging dialogue down with them. This forces viewers to ride the remote. The goal isn't to make dialogue louder, but to make it consistent, so intelligibility isn't lost in the constant push and pull of playback levels. In the end, the panel made one point clear: Dialogue intelligibility is not a technical problem with a technical fix, it is a systemic responsibility. The solution isn't louder dialogue, heavier compression, or tighter QC, but better communication, shared priorities, and restraint at every stage of the process. The burden doesn't rest with a single role. It belongs to the entire filmmaking ecosystem. and creative control, Fishman stressed the importance of real-world checks, including the classic "granny mix": turning on a TV across the room to confirm dialogue still carries. "If I couldn't hear it," he said, "then I knew the dialogue was too quiet." The challenge, he noted, isn't where shows are mixed—but ensuring they translate to how most people actually listen. Dolby Fellow Jeffrey Riedmiller brought an engineer's perspective to what is often treated as a policy discussion. He wasn't focused on rules, but on the realities of measurement: how dialogue could be reliably detected, how loudness could be simplified to one meaningful number, and how systems could work in the real world, not just on paper. Long before "AI" entered the conversation, Riedmiller helped develop dialogue-intelligence tools trained across languages to identify speech inside complex mixes. But just as importantly, he explained why the technology has barely changed in years. Once content is measured and archived across a large number of programs, altering the algorithm would be tricky. Even if an update was an improvement, remeasuring old programs would create an entirely new set of issues. In loudness, stability matters as much as accuracy. While Riedmiller addressed how loudness is measured, re-recording mixer and broadcast specialist Marc Fishman CAS Jon Greasley CAS MPSE Jeffrey Riedmiller