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www.postmagazine.com 20 POST SEPT/OCT 2024 a master of chaining things together." How did you orchestrate the massive Deadpool Corps sequence? "A huge amount of preparation went into that, and the whole sequence is well over 200 shots — some very complicated visual effects, which are effectively invisible on-screen. We knew we were never going to have hundreds of Deadpools. We had somewhere between 30 and 50, depending on how available the stunt guys were. "We used traditional crowd replication tech- niques, and we shot with blue screen so we could do split screens and top-ups as well. In the end, 90 percent of it is elements of plate. We did add in some digital doubles, but they were always for a specific reason: story development, a bit of extra humor and the usual sort of Marvel — I wouldn't say Easter eggs — but that little bit of everything linking together and having a reason. "The shoot was quite intense because shooting multiple plates, exterior, in British wintertime, was very challenging. It was bitter and miserable out there in Pinewood in the middle of December. Everyone was being a real trooper. The crew were fantastic. You could see their trust in Swen. They were so comfortable with the visual effects re- quests and requirements. "I was very lucky to be on-set, and invited along for that period and see all that preparation that they put in come through. We were very lucky that we were shooting what we'd seen on storyboard and on the previs. They were churning out all those costumes, and there was a constant train of Deadpool variants going off to the scanning booth. Everyone really got into the groove and had a great understanding of what was required." Tell us about your work on Dogpool, the fan- favorite variant who undeniably stole the show. "Peggy, which is her real name, was great. She was obviously a massive favorite on-set with the crew. We'd originally built a very high-quality digi double for her because she was expected to do so much, and there's only one of her. She's obviously very unique, so you can't have a series of dogs in case she gets tired. "She had to wear a superhero outfit, do stunts and be in an environment with hundreds of people, running around pyro explosions. It turned out Peggy did everything. She wore the outfit. She did the stunts. She was fantastic with the special effects and the pyro. She was great with all the people running around. She was obviously fantas- tic with Ryan, and all of that interaction was great. "We got everything in-camera, but there were a few things we thought we could work out a little bit more. There were a few uses for the digi double, but 99 percent was her, and she was fantastic. The goggles were in the original artwork, but they looked completely different. They only came back after everything had been shot. It was new artwork, newly-designed goggles. We did a quick digital version and stuck it on. You lose a bit of her character because she has so much fur in front of her eyes, which is a shame because she has beau- tiful eyes. We couldn't use the plate eyes because they're still covered, so we used our digital eyes because we've got a great model of her. "Then there was a suggestion from Marvel: 'Why don't we magnify them? Give them that slightly Mr. Magoo cartoon look?' They actually gave us a cartoon as reference. We had to thicken up the glass because we're using a physics-based ren- derer. We had to do it with real glass mathematics and force the optical refractions. We matched her performance and did tests. We said, 'It's going to work, but can you make her look over there?' That opened the doors for the animators to come in. It gave her this massive new boost of character be- cause it meant we could actually make her react to the performances of Hugh, Ryan and all the other characters, and that was fantastic." How did you create the mind-bending Time Ripper sequences? "Out of all the work we did, these are the ones that weren't well defined when we started the visual effects. There was postvis for everything, which is great for the timing and the performances, but I don't think we'd really locked down what it was going to look like. Marvel is great at coming up with words describing something that has never been seen before. Our job is to come up with the visuals. "The big thing for us was Cassandra's atomi- zation, which we knew had to be really close up. We've got a fantastic digital double of Emma. We had to build all the subsurface stuff — skull, brains, everything — because we knew we would have to disintegrate her. She was fantastic in the scanning machine — sitting in there with that many strobe lights is really quite distressing. "We went through this whole process of what 'atomization' was. We were running all sorts of things: videos of sandblasting fruits and using jets on faces. Her disintegration evolved and changed. As I said in some of my notes, she died a thou- sand deaths in our machines. We came up with so many different ways to disintegrate her, shred her... The final result is five or six different techniques all blended together. We got a full :20 sequence of her just slowly disintegrating…and then it gets cut into very small cutaways in the film because it's actually quite distressing in its entirety. "The Time Ripper was always going to shatter and explode. Every single nut and bolt of that machine goes flying off and exploding everywhere. We thought, 'Well, if she has this big reaction, then the environment is going to as well.' You can see that it's not just affecting her body, but it's also tearing apart the room that they're in. "It was a constant evolution between the effects artists, and the supervisors and production. I think there were a lot of ideas that were left as renders, which will come back in future films. There were a lot of good ideas, which I think we have banked, which is great. "Downstairs, what was happening to Deadpool and Wolverine was interesting because we knew it had to be extremely dangerous, extremely painful. You had to really think that these guys were not going to walk away from this. But, of course, they are a slight level removed from Cassandra's experi- ence upstairs, who is getting the full force of it. "We worked on them getting superheated inter- nally, generating a sort of internal plasma, which then starts to burst and crack through — that their innate healing was counteracting. You had this hor- rible cycle of them burning up internally but being healed, and it's just getting worse and worse until you could feel it overwhelming their superpowers. Deadpool is completely covered in a costume, while Wolverine by this point was partially un- Dogpool is real pooch named 'Peggy,' but a digi double was also created.