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M OT I O N P I CTU R E S O U N D E D I TO R S 45 how much he and Max Steiner worked together. Max Steiner composed the music for King Kong, and they worked together in a way where they would hand-off. In a way that we so rarely do today! "Oh, King Kong's gonna roar here for the first time? I'm gonna build to it, then I'm gonna give it to you, Murray!" And then Murray would do the roar, and then the music would take back over. And then there's a big music element when they were going to the island or something on the ship, and then Murray pulls back, and simplifies the sound, so that … they hand back-and-forth to each other. And it was amazing to me to read just how much they spoke and how much they planned ahead. SL: That's wonderful. Yeah, as I remember, they had four tracks ( for the final mix). Just four tracks! So you have to work together in a situation like that! GR: And the technique that Murray Spivack used for doing King Kong which is recording real animals, playing them backward, adding the backward over the forward, changing the pitch—it's exactly what I did on Jurassic Park. There was no difference—I was just using a Synclavier, and he was using old optical recorders and things. But the technique is exactly the same. SL: You've talked about this, but I would like to go into it a little here—what are some of the fun animals that you had? I understand there were penguins…? GR: Yeah. For the raptors. SL: The trilling of the penguins! I tracked down a lot of penguin recordings, first for Batman Returns—and it was fascinating to listen to their vocalizations. GR: Well, the raptors, especially in that movie, they had to sound intelligent. So, I think of all the dinosaurs in the first Jurassic Park, the raptors were made up of the most animal sounds. Different animals. For breathing, for the different things they would do. So, I was reassembling real animal sounds into a vocabulary for the velociraptor. And my approach to that movie was to do as little processing as possible. Really just changing the pitch. Really the King Kong approach, and not over-processing—it's a matter of collecting, and finding, really interesting stuff, and then sort of organizing it… I learned from Ben, because when he did Chewbacca, he recorded bear stuff, and he would organize the bear stuff into vocabularies. Different moods and things like that. And then cut by Terry Eckton, usually. And so that's what it is. It's just finding interesting animal sounds, and then reassembling them into what sounds like a single new creature. The velociraptor has got walruses and dolphins and lynxes and horses and tortoises … there must be 20 different animals in there. But that was the way to make it sound intelligent to me. So it had an intelligence to it. A communication to it. The T-Rex was more of a "I'm breathing, I'm sniffing around, I attack!" And it's a fun sound, but there's not a big range. Once it decides it's going to eat you, there isn't a lot of emotion to the T-Rex— it's just coming after you. SL: There are several "dinosaur crowd scenes" too, when they're out there in the field. GR: Actually, one of my favorite sounds, which is in the crowd scene of the brachiosaurs—and that's the first dinosaur you see, so it's sort of a special dinosaur in Jurassic Park. SL: It has a very "whale" quality to it. GR: I'm sure I used whales, I used donkeys, I used things that had pitch. I remember reading a book—my one-and-only book for research on Jurassic Park—about animal communication. And the thing that stuck with me was that animals that aren't predators, that are more the prey animals—the gentler animals— their vocals, in general in nature, their vocals are more pure of pitch. And the ones that are predators— the T-Rex—they just "ROAR!" The spitter. The T-Rex. The raptors. But the brachiosaurs had song. Taken from a whale-like idea, that you would imagine that they would communicate over long distances through these whale-like songs. Some whales, and I actually tried to use more donkey or other animals and actually try to find sections in the animals that had a natural song quality to them. And then pitch them and reverb them so they had this beautiful singing communication. What I like about Jurassic Park is it's not just dinosaurs that kill you— there are also dinosaurs that impress you. Brachiosaurs and triceratops … those are always fun to do other than the ones that want to kill you. SL: I was going to ask if you had talked to any paleontologists or any people who would know—I mean, obviously we don't have any real recordings of dinosaurs, yet—but I was wondering if you had any official word on what they might sound like, or did you work completely from a creative mindset? GR: There were paleontologists— Jack Horner, a famous paleonto- logist, was a consultant on the show. I talked to paleontologists, and they all said, we have no idea. Literally no idea. And that was fine with me. I remember getting criticized after the movie came out and there was a scientist somewhere who said that the T-Rex would not have roared, it would have no way to roar—the scientist claimed that the most common sound for the T-Rex would have been stomach gurgles. Which would have made for a very different movie. SL: Yeah … go for those burps in the library that you have… GR: Back to the belches. It always goes back to the belches! SL: One of my favorite sound jobs of

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